Some churches worship on a Saturday

[Geoh Soon]

http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/media/booklets/cs.pdf

Hope some1 can help me wif dis topic ^^

[pfalcon]

Alright I will help you

I won't give you the solution, but I'd guide you on this...

Answer these few questions and perhaps you would be able to then make a proper conclusion...
1. What is(or was) the purpose of the Sabbath?
2. What is the significance of the 10 Commandments today?
3. What is the significance of Jesus' time of resurrection?
4. When are the Christians told to worship?
5. From (3), which day is that on our calendar?

Perhaps these questions will lead to more questions, but that's just all in the fun of Bible Study, isn't it?

Have fun!

[Geoh Soon]

Do u mind giving me answers to those Q, with references quoted from the bible ?
My friends will like to know ^^
Sry...im very weak with my bible knowledge
Thx

[pfalcon]

Well, I believe we all learned how to use eSword in the YDP, so should be no problem in searching...

If I were to give you, I might be biased in my own way, because I might misinterpret some references.

Having said that, I'd probably provide something extra to help you search out your Scriptures...
1. Reference should be around Exodus. During the giving of the 10 Commandments.
2. Reference is in Deuteronomy, when the 10 Commandments were reviewed.
3. Reference is in the book of Matthew, possibly the 30th chapter (hint hint)
4. Reference is all over the book of Acts.
5. This is (obviously) not from the Bible. I think we all know the answer to this.

It is because when we think we are very weak in the Bible that we need to search for ourselves.

I always believe one learns the most if he teaches himself rather than someone else teaches him.

Hv fun!! 2 Tim 2:15

[abwoon]

ACTS 20:7

If permitted I would like to reference some literature,The Jewish New Testament commentary. It says it much better than I could.

Motza˒ei-Shabbat in Hebrew means “departure of the Sabbath” and refers to Saturday night. The Greek text here says, “the first day of the sabbaton,” where Greek sabbaton transliterates Hebrew Shabbat and may be translated “Sabbath” or “week,” depending on the context. Since Shabbat itself is only one day, “the first day of the sabbaton” must be the first day of the week.
But what was meant by “the first day of the week”? Or, to make the question’s relevance to Messianic Judaism clearer, were the believers meeting on Saturday night or on Sunday night? (It is clear from the verse that the meeting was in the evening.) A Saturday night meeting would fit more naturally with Jewish Shabbat observance, wherein the restful spirit of Shabbat is often preserved into Saturday evening, after the official end of Shabbat itself, which occurs after sunset when it gets dark enough to see three stars. It would be natural for Jewish believers who had rested on Shabbat with the rest of the Jewish community to assemble afterwards to celebrate their common faith in Yeshua the Messiah. The Gentile believers who came along later would join in the already established practice, especially since many of them would have been “God-fearers” (10:2) already accustomed to following the lead of the Jews in whose company they had chosen to place themselves. And since by Jewish reckoning days commence after sunset, the sense of the Greek text seems best rendered by “Motza˒ei-Shabbat,” not “Sunday.”
In various places this commentary notes the Christian Church’s tendency to expunge Jewish influences, and I think an instance arises when the present verse is understood to refer to Sunday night. A Sunday night meeting would imply a break of one full day of work between the Jewish Shabbat and the gathering at which Sha’ul spoke. Although Sha’ul cautions Gentiles against being “Judaized” into legalistic observance of the Jewish Sabbath (Co 2:16–17&NN, and possibly Ga 4:8–10&N), although he asks the believers in Corinth to set aside money for the Jewish poor of Jerusalem also on “the first day of the sabbaton” (1C 16:2&N), and although Yochanan at Rv 1:10 speaks of what most translators render as “the Lord’s day” (I translate it “the Day of the Lord”; see note there), nevertheless the meeting in Ephesus must have been on Saturday night. For in this city, as in other places, Jewish believers constituted the core of the congregation—Sha’ul “took the talmidim with him” from the synagogue (19:8–9), with many Gentiles coming to faith later (19:17, 20). The Jewish believers, as explained, would have been accustomed to prolonging Shabbat, so that they would probably not have minded Sha’ul’s talking till midnight. A Saturday night meeting would continue the God-oriented spirit of Shabbat, rather than require the believers to shift their concern from workaday matters, as would be the case on Sunday night.
I do not find the New Testament commanding a specific day of the week for worship. There can be no objection whatever to the practice adopted later by a Gentile-dominated Church of celebrating “the Lord’s Day” on Sunday, including Sunday night; but this custom must not be read back into New Testament times. On the other hand, Messianic Jews who worship on Saturday night rather than Sunday can find warrant for their practice in this verse.
Stern, D. H. (1996, c1992). Jewish New Testament Commentary : A companion volume to the Jewish New Testament (electronic ed.) (Ac 20:7). Clarksville: Jewish New Testament Publications.
Schwandt, J., & Collins, C. J. (2006; 2006).

If you look at the Greek transliteration of this verse or just the greek word used in this verse for WEEK it will give you confirmation of how this word was implied and the content of this commentary. The ESV English-Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament (Ac 20:7-8). (Logos Research Systems, Inc) is a good resource.
Thank you for this question I gained a more thorough understanding of why we meet on Sunday's. I didn't realize the depth of the backround. It is so easy for us to take for granted or assume, but thats why we are commanded to study.

[jessie]

THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT TIME ZONES OUT THERE THAT WILL IN ITSELF PUT A SABBATH ON DIFFERENT DAYS, NO MATTER IF WE ARE CALLING IT ON SATURDAY OR SUNDAY. ILL AGREE THE JEWS CONSIDERED IT A SATURDAY..BUT WE ARE TO KEEP THE SABBATH HOLY. DOES THAT MEAN ONLY SATURDAY(OR SUNDAY FOR THE CHRISTIAN SECT?) THERES ALSO CHURCHES THAT WORSHIP ON DAYS THRU THE WEEK. ARE THEY IN ERR? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

GETTIN BACK TO THE TIME ZONE....IF I AM WORSHIPPING CHRIST ON SUNDAY NIGHT AND ITS DONE TURNED TO MONDAY ELSEWHERE AM I WRONG? WE CANNOT WORSHIP CHRIST ENOUGH. NO MATTER THE DAY ITS DONE ON..I DONT THINK CHRIST IS GONNA LOOK DOWN ON ANYONE BECAUSE OF THE DAY OF THE WEEK. MAYBE WE SHOULD WORSHIP EVERYDAY..JUST AS CHRIST TAUGHT.........EVERYDAY. SO DID HIS DESCIPLES.

MY ADVICE IS NOT TO WORRY ABOUT THE DAY. ....WE ALSO SAY THERES 365 DAYS IN A YEAR.....7 DAYS A WEEK X 56 WEEKS IS ONLY 364. WONT THIS ALSO CHANGE THE SABBATH? BECAUSE ITS GONNA HAVE TO EITHER ADD MORE THAN 60 MINUTES IN A HOUR OR TAKE FROM IT..MAKING IT A DIFFERENT DAY.............

I SAY WORRY ABOUT IF WE ARE WHERE WE NEED TO BE, IN OUR CHRISTIAN LIVING INSTEAD OF THIS.

[cwbys4evr]

1. We are no longer under the old law and thus the sabbath no longer applies. Sure, in the Old Testament the word "forever" is mentioned in connection with the Sabbath, but people don't realize there are actually two different meanings for "forever" in the Hebrew. One of them means "until the end of time" and the other means "until some unspecified time in the future". Since the old law was done away with, and the new law does not repeat the requirement for the "sabbath" then one would have to conclude that the meaning of forever with regards to the sabbath meant "until an unspecified period of time".

2. The New Testament Church worshiped on Sunday, the "Lord's Day". It was not until the 19th or 20th century when the Seventh Day Adventists rolled around that people thought about worshipping on Saturday. So if your friend wants to worship on Saturday tell him to go be a Seventh Day Adventist, because he certainly is NOT authorized to do it as part of the Lord's church, and therefore "corporate worship" as a body is not acceptable to the Lord if it occurs on a Saturday. Individual worship is a different story. You can worship God any day you like, and really we should live in a constant state of worship. It just wouldn't be appropriate to take the Lord's Supper except on the Lord's Day.

[cwbys4evr]

THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT TIME ZONES OUT THERE THAT WILL IN ITSELF PUT A SABBATH ON DIFFERENT DAYS, NO MATTER IF WE ARE CALLING IT ON SATURDAY OR SUNDAY. ILL AGREE THE JEWS CONSIDERED IT A SATURDAY..BUT WE ARE TO KEEP THE SABBATH HOLY. DOES THAT MEAN ONLY SATURDAY(OR SUNDAY FOR THE CHRISTIAN SECT?) THERES ALSO CHURCHES THAT WORSHIP ON DAYS THRU THE WEEK. ARE THEY IN ERR? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

GETTIN BACK TO THE TIME ZONE....IF I AM WORSHIPPING CHRIST ON SUNDAY NIGHT AND ITS DONE TURNED TO MONDAY ELSEWHERE AM I WRONG? WE CANNOT WORSHIP CHRIST ENOUGH. NO MATTER THE DAY ITS DONE ON..I DONT THINK CHRIST IS GONNA LOOK DOWN ON ANYONE BECAUSE OF THE DAY OF THE WEEK. MAYBE WE SHOULD WORSHIP EVERYDAY..JUST AS CHRIST TAUGHT.........EVERYDAY. SO DID HIS DESCIPLES.

MY ADVICE IS NOT TO WORRY ABOUT THE DAY. ....WE ALSO SAY THERES 365 DAYS IN A YEAR.....7 DAYS A WEEK X 56 WEEKS IS ONLY 364. WONT THIS ALSO CHANGE THE SABBATH? BECAUSE ITS GONNA HAVE TO EITHER ADD MORE THAN 60 MINUTES IN A HOUR OR TAKE FROM IT..MAKING IT A DIFFERENT DAY.............

I SAY WORRY ABOUT IF WE ARE WHERE WE NEED TO BE, IN OUR CHRISTIAN LIVING INSTEAD OF THIS.

PS no offense jessie but the time zone argument I find to be a tad absurd.

[cwbys4evr]

So, over the last 2 months I have been considering several doctrinal issues, including this one. Then it occurred to me very recently that Saturday Night in Jewish consideration would actually be the beginning of Sunday. Am I accurate in saying that? If so, that would open up a whole new consideration since Saturday night would actually qualify as an acceptable time to worship and take the Lord's Supper.

So yeah, I'm a little confused now. Any help would be appreciated.

[cwbys4evr]

I further suppose that if each congregation is truly autonomous, then it would follow that each congregation has a right to decide this for itself, and I would be overstepping my bounds by telling them they are wrong. Thoughts?